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Saturday, December 16, 2017

David Lemieux vs. Billy Joe Saunders: quick prefight analysis and betting prediction



Fight: David Lemieux (38-3, 33 KOs) vs. Billy Joe Saunders (25-0, 12 KOs)
Location: Place Bell, Laval, Quebec, Canada
Date: December 16, 2017
Weight class: Middleweight (160 lbs)
Title(s) on the line: WBO World middleweight title
TV: HBO
Line: Lemieux -115, Saunders -105 (5 Dimes, 12/15/17)
Ring Magazine Rankings: Lemieux: #3 ranked middleweight, Saunders: #4 ranked middleweight
Style: Lemieux: Orthodox, Saunders: Southpaw
Referee: Michael Griffin


Why you should watch this fight


In a middleweight division loaded with talent, Billy Joe Saunders is an undefeated world title holder (WBO) who is arguably the third best middleweight on the planet behind boxing superstars Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

Saunders is a tough and very talented technician who has beaten everyone put in front of him,  including highly regarded World Boxing Super Series super middleweight favorite and - at the time undefeated - Chris Eubank Jr. But Saunders will be fighting outside the the friendly confines of his home country (the United Kingdom) for the first time in his professional career Saturday night when he travels to Canada to face one of the most dangerous power punchers in the sport in David Lemieux on Lemieux's home turf in Montreal. Lemieux is a highly aggressive, explosive puncher with power in both hands and an impressive 80.5% KO ratio over 41 professional fights; his only loss in the past seven years was to current Ring Magazine pound-for-pound #1-ranked fighter Golovkin.

A win for Lemieux tomorrow night would be by far the most impressive of his career (would in fact be his first win vs. a top-level opponent) and would firmly establish him as one of the top four or five middleweights in the world. The winner of this fight is probably the most likely to face the winner of next May's Canelo vs. Golovkin rematch later in 2018 for a middleweight unification bout that could result in the first undisputed middleweight champion in boxing since Jermain Taylor in 2006.

With the exception of a few, fighters from the United Kingdom have typically not fared well in title fights overseas in hostile environments vs. world-class opposition. A win for Saunders tomorrow night vs. Lemieux would actually be one of the more impressive wins for a UK fighter outside the UK in recent years. 


Prefight Analysis


As the odds suggest, Lemieux vs. Saunders is a true "50/50" fight that could go either way. Extremely difficult to predict the winner here.

What you have to like about Saunders is that he is likely the better pure boxer/technician in this matchup, with his high ring intelligence and superior boxing skills. Unlike Lemieux, Saunders has also never lost a fight in his professional career. Whenever Saunders has faced a tough, top-level opponent (vs. Eubank Jr., Andy Lee, or even his most recent fight vs. a solid Willie Monroe Jr. - all of whom are arguably on the same level as, if not even slightly better than Lemieux) he's emerged from the fight victorious. Lemieux, on the other hand, has never beaten a fighter near the caliber of Saunders and has actually already lost twice in his hometown of Montreal to fighters with less skill than Saunders. (Lemieux's first loss was to a fighter in Joachim Alcine who proceeded to lose his next five fights after beating Lemieux.)

Although Saunders doesn't have Lemieux's power, he strikes me as both mentally and physically tougher than Lemieux - a toughness I think that is the result of his blue collar, Gypsy upbringing where he'd been fighting in bare-knuckle competitions when he was only five years old. Saunders has a tight, effective defense (opponents land only 18% of total punches and 23.6% of power punches vs. Saunders) and has never been knocked out or knocked down in his professional career. (Lemieux, on the other hand, has been stopped twice.) I think Saunders' superior boxing skill (in particular his solid jab which I expect to be very effective in managing distance vs. Lemieux), as well as his oft-overlooked mental toughness and grit may be too much for Lemieux to over come - even in Montreal.

With all that said, I'm not at all comfortable betting on Saunders to win this fight - even at nearly even money odds - as Lemieux does have several advantages in this matchup. This fight is essentially in Lemieux's hometown (Laval, Quebec - a suburb of Montreal) and - although Saunders is technically the "A" side fighter in this matchup - Lemieux's promoter Golden Boy is the more high profile, lead promoter for Saturday night's boxing card. I strongly suspect the home crowd atmosphere combined with the backing of Golden Boy Promotions may create a scoring bias in favor of Lemieux - as it arguably did  this past May for Golden Boy-backed Canelo in his controversial draw vs. Golovkin, a fight which many felt he clearly lost. Again, this will be the first time in Saunders' professional career that he's fought outside of the United Kingdom, so it's tough to predict how well he'll fare fighting in a hostile environment.

Although Saunders may have slightly faster hand speed, Lemieux is the superior athlete with much greater punching power. Saunders has never in his career faced a fighter with Lemieux's combination of power and punch volume and could end up getting overwhelmed by Lemieux's effective aggression - especially in the later rounds where Saunders is known to gas out on occasion. And though Lemieux has lost earlier in his career - as an inexperienced 22-year old - to lesser opponents than Saunders, he's gained experience and improved a bit since those losses; since losing two consecutive fights in 2011, Lemieux has lost only one other fight - to a fighter in Golovkin many consider the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and one of the great middleweights of all time. Saunders, on the other hand, hasn't looked particularly impressive in recent fights, causing some to speculate whether he's already past his peak as a top-level fighter.

Lemieux vs. Saunders is a "toss-up" fight in the truest sense of the word. Despite Lemieux's power advantage inside the ring and advantage in some key intangibles outside of the ring (home crowd, high-profile promoter), I still slightly favor Saunders' superior boxing skills, defense, and mental toughness to prevail vs. Lemieux. Just not enough to bet on it.

I do, however, believe Saunders - with his slick defensive abilities and solid chin (a chin which has never hit the canvas in his professional career) - is highly likely to get through the full 12 rounds with Lemieux, win or lose. Note that 2 of Lemieux's last 3 fights within the past 14 months - both vs. lesser-skilled opponents than Saunders - went the full distance with Lemieux failing to score even one knockdown in either fight. Note also that Lemieux - who, like Saunders, has a history of stamina issues - has only one of his 33 TKO/KO victories past the 7th round; in other words, if Lemieux doesn't stop his opponent in the early or middle rounds, he's usually not stopping them late.

With Saunders not being much of a puncher himself (only two wins by TKO/KO in the past five years and a career TKO/KO% of only 48%), I think that the best value on this fight is to bet that the fight goes the full 12 rounds - a bet that is currently available at around -150 odds.

As far as the outcome, it's hard to predict even what kind of fight will break out Saturday night. A high-volume war likely favors Lemieux, while a slower-paced, more tactical fight likely favors Saunders. Bur either way it's an intriguing matchup and tough test that puts a lot at stake for both fighters.


Prediction: Saunders by decision

Recommended bet: Lemieux/Saunders goes full 12 rounds (.5 unit)


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Saturday, January 18, 2014

Pascal vs. Bute: prefight analysis and prediction

Fight: Jean Pascal (28-2-1, 17 KOs) vs. Lucian Bute (31-1, 24 KOs)
Location: Bell Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Date: January 18, 2014
Weight class: Light Heavyweight (175 lbs)
Title(s) on the line: NABF Light Heavyweight title
TV: HBO
Line: Pascal -165, Bute +155 (5 Dimes, 1/18/14)
Purse: Pascal: $2 million, Bute: $2 million
Ring Magazine Rankings: Pascal - #10 ranked light heavyweight, Bute - #3 ranked super middleweight
Style: Pascal: Orthodox, Bute: Southpaw


Positives for Pascal

  • Ring Magazine #10 light heavyweight. One of the hardest punchers pound-for-pound in the sport. Tremendous KO power in both hands. Pascal's power is somewhat underrated due to relatively low KO % (55%). 
  • Athletic, explosive boxer who prefers to box from the outside and wait for opportunities to jump in and pressure opponents ambush-style. The awkward angles Pascal throws punches from are often difficult to defend against.
  • Has natural quickness; has had hand and foot speed advantage vs. nearly every fighter he has fought and will have these advantages vs. Bute.
  • Experienced boxer who has fought many of the elite fighters in his weight class, including Bernard Hopkins (twice), Chad Dawson, and Carl Froch. Pascal beat Dawson who, like Bute, is a slick southpaw technician, by technical decision in 2010. 
  • Pascal has only lost twice in his career; both times to a current major title holder and future hall-of-famer (Carl Froch in 2008 and Bernard Hopkins in 2011). 
  • Solid chin; has never been knocked down or in danger of getting stopped in his career.
  • Fast starter who generally gets out to early leads in fights.  


Negatives for Pascal

  • Injury prone boxer who has suffered multiple serious shoulder injuries during fights (in some cases requiring his corner to pop his shoulder back in so he could continue). The injuries may persist and get worse as he gets older, possibly affecting the outcome of this fight. 
  • Due to his injuries, Pascal has been relatively inactive. Only fought once in 2013 and twice in the past 31 months. 
  • Has a strong chin, but defensive skills are subpar. Often fights flat-footed with his hands down, which at times allows his opponents to land effective counterpunches.
  • Questionable stamina; often starts fast but has a tendency to tire and slow down by the middle of the fight (see both fights vs. Hopkins).
  • Relatively low-volume puncher; has a tendency to have stretches of inactivity during fights (particularly in the middle and later rounds when he tires).


Positives for Bute

  • Ring Magazine #3 super middleweight. Solid technical boxer with great punching power. Has better technical boxing skills than Jean Pascal. 
  • Has long been considered one of the top super middleweights in the world. Only loss was to future hall-of-famer and current WBA and IBF super middleweight champion Carl Froch in Froch's hometown of Nottingham, England. Bute has never lost a pro fight in Canada.
  • Well-rounded fighter with good hand speed. Strengths are his left uppercut and body punching. 
  • Has decisively beaten other solid fighters such as Glen Johnson, Edison Miranda, and Librado Andrade.
  • Unlike Pascal, Bute has solid stamina; his punching power tends to last though later rounds. 


Negatives for Bute

  • Highly possible Bute's confidence is shaken since his 5th round TKO loss vs. Froch in 2012. Bute looked unimpressive in his last fight vs. Denis Grachev (won close decision vs. Grachev, who was fighting in only his 14th pro fight).
  • Has been inactive due to an injury to his left hand; Bute didn't fight in 2013 and has only fought once since his TKO loss to Froch in May, 2012.
  • Bute has mediocre defensive skills and a shaky chin. Like Pascal fights with his hands down at times, leaving him open to counterpunches.  Bute has been knocked down in previous fights (most notably in his loss to Carl Froch) and in this fight will be fighting a boxer with even greater punching power than Froch. 
  • Bute is relatively inexperienced at light heavyweight; this fight vs. Pascal (who has fought his last 8 fights at light heavyweight) will be only the second fight he's fought at this weight.. 
  • Other than Froch, Bute has not fought the level of talent Pascal has. Bute has never beaten a fighter of Pascal's caliber and will be fighting the strongest puncher he's ever fought on a questionable chin after the TKO loss to Froch and the unimpressive, close victory over Denis Grachev in his most recent fights. 


Prefight Summary

Lucian Bute has long been one of the top super middleweights in the world but is now fighting in only his second fight at light heavyweight vs. Jean Pascal, a true light heavyweight with true light heavyweight punching power and solid boxing skills. Although Bute has long been considered a top-level boxer, he has been relatively untested in his career with his best wins coming vs. the likes of low B-level fighters such as Glen Johnson and Librado Andrade. The one time Bute fought an opponent of Pascal's caliber in terms of punching power and skill (vs. Carl Froch in 2012) he suffered a devastating, early round TKO which appears to have stymied his career and shaken his confidence.

Pascal is not the top-level, possible future hall-of-fame boxer Froch is but Pascal is very experienced at light heavyweight and fought competitively vs. opponents much tougher than Bute. In 2010, Pascal decisively beat an undefeated, top 10 pound-for-pound boxer in Chad Dawson (who, like Bute, is a slick southpaw with solid technical skills) and in more recent years was in two close, competitive fights with Bernard Hopkins, one of the most skilled technicians in the history of the sport (in 2011 earned a draw vs. Hopkins after scoring two knockdowns and being way ahead early in the fight and in 2012 suffered a close unanimous decision loss).

Both Hopkins and Dawson have strong defensive skills, so for the most part were able to stay out of danger  vs. Pascal. Bute does not have the defensive skill nor the foot speed to elude Pascal's ambush style and tremendous punching power for the entire fight. I anticipate Pascal will be able to close in on Bute some time in one of the early rounds and use his quickness and power advantage to overwhelm him en route to an early or mid-round TKO/KO or comfortable decision if he is unable to get the KO.

My two main concerns with this prediction are 1) Pascal's stamina issues and 2) Pascal's history of shoulder troubles. If Pascal gets tired in the middle rounds or if one of his old shoulder injuries recur, I would not be surprised if Bute, who has the superior technical boxing skills and has good punching power in his own right, gains confidence and outboxes Pascal in the later rounds of the fight to eke out a close decision.

But on the whole I don't see Bute's mediocre defense and shaky chin being able to withstand Pascal's speed and power advantages. Bute will try to keep his distance and outbox Pascal from the outside but I expect Pascal to close and catch up to him eventually for the stoppage.

Prediction: Pascal by TKO/KO